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David T.

Ben, You star. Thanks for pointing the fact that Froosh used the same design agency as innocent!
David T.

Ben

I was going to add one rather snide thing.

Brendan is wrong, he and Innocent have one of the biggest 'brand' factors in common.

Pearlfisher, the packaging design agency.

Enough said.

Ben

David T.

Brendan, The other David from the brandgym here, David T.

I have already got a few more facts on Froosh and innocent and updated the blog post to reflect this.

Sorry we didn't check our facts better first time round, thanks for taking time to correct us.

If you email me your address to david@thebrandgym.com, a copy of the brandgym book is on its way as a small gesture of thanks for your feedback.
David T.
P.S. Didn't our paths cross many years ago through Tom Allchurch?!

Daniel Milstein

That is true,David. As an author and business man, I can relate to how you said, "They have a ‘manifesto’ entitled ‘In Fruit We Trust’, which outlines how they are obsessed with fruit and fruitfarms and believe in their power to transform individual lives and whole communities". I hope more people discover your blog because you really know what you're talking about. Can't wait to read more from you!

David Nichols

Brendan - so that we get the facts correct, could you ask someone in your team to let us know: launch dates for Froosh and Innocent in Scandinavia and their current market shares in all 4 markets? Many thanks.
David N

David Nichols

Brendan,

First - many thanks for pointing out the obvious error. I should have checked how big Innocent is in Denmark.

I am well aware that Innocent didn't invent smoothies - Odwalla and others in the US were doing cool things with smoothies years before them. My point is actually reinforced by this: that great marketing ideas (like Innocent's and Froosh) don't have to be totally original to succeed. Borrowing ideas is a tried and tested path to success. I am also not suggesting that you 'stole' their slogans or indeed any part of their marketing execution. What I commented on was that you have a very similar proposition and it is clearly one that people really like. And that's a good thing.

Apologies again for the incorrect facts, but I hope my main point still stands: great brands, like Froosh, can build on ideas others have used (Odwalla, Innocent....) and create distinctive market leading success.

Next time I'm in Scandinavia, I know which brand of smoothie I will be buying...Froosh!

David N
Smoothie lover

Gyte

I was about to comment that Innocent is indeed pretty big in Denmark. On the other hand physical availability IS very important. It is not so easy to find Froosh in the stores and that is unfortunately the big problem in Denmark with many more interesting brands.

Brendan Harris

David, I'm the managing director of Froosh.

I'm afraid you chose the wrong example to illustrate your argument - Froosh is nothing like Innocent.

We are the market leading smoothie brand in the Nordics and we have a unique and distinctive brand - which actually is obvious from the photo in your article.

But let's start with the accusation that we have stolen Innocent's signature slogan.

With all due respect you made that up - we have never used it and never will.

As for "Innocent had not made it to Denmark yet", had you done your homework you would have discovered that Denmark is one of Innocent's strongest markets outside the UK.

Innocent is the market leader in Denmark (we're working on that!) - which I think on its own destroys the centrepiece of your argument.

In fact the only thing we have in common with Innocent is that we are both in the smoothie sector - but that's hardly grounds for accusing us of plagiarism.

After all Innocent didn't invent smoothies. They copied the idea from the US.

Brendan Harris, CEO, Froosh

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